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have you been in trouble with the law? african-americans had to go to natalie that, but they had to go through rigorous testing, two different sets of tests. after all of that the school board came back and said, the most amazing things. none of these students were good enough to be in the way schools. they published it in. a list of why each of these kids wasn't good enough. here are the kids that failed scholastic plea. here the kids that have a bad background. here the kids -- the ticket to the court. the court said, you know what, or not feeling it. come back with us again because you will integrate. finally they paid 70 students that they were allowed into the schools. and it's not clear why they picked the 17 students. i know some of those students, they said they thought maybe there were lighter skinned. it looked around and said, well, no, looking at us, let's not a. maybe we have last names that sounded more -- no one could figure it out. but the 17 were picked. the same day that they were bitten the governor sent
have you been in trouble with the law? african-americans had to go to natalie that, but they had to go through rigorous testing, two different sets of tests. after all of that the school board came back and said, the most amazing things. none of these students were good enough to be in the way schools. they published it in. a list of why each of these kids wasn't good enough. here are the kids that failed scholastic plea. here the kids that have a bad background. here the kids -- the ticket to...
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that's the law. we repeal that in this bill so that a man or woman serving in uniform in this country can buy a firearm in their home state. we allow a person who has a conceal carry permit to use the permit as a mechanism for which they are approved for a gun sale and it stands to reason the permit process a cum we cumbersome and onerous process. if you pasta, then -- pass that you should be fine. we have that built in here as well. i want to underscore, these are the reasons why two of the leading pro second amendments groups have endorsed the bill. it enhances the opportunity of law-abiding citizens to exercise their second amendment rights. now, if you're a criminal or if you are a mentally unqualified to have a firearm you're not going like this bill. as said at the beginning i feel strongly. it's not gun droll keep guns out of hands of people who are not qualified to have them. so again, i want to thank the gentleman from west virginia, my friend. i appreciate the hard work you put in to this.
that's the law. we repeal that in this bill so that a man or woman serving in uniform in this country can buy a firearm in their home state. we allow a person who has a conceal carry permit to use the permit as a mechanism for which they are approved for a gun sale and it stands to reason the permit process a cum we cumbersome and onerous process. if you pasta, then -- pass that you should be fine. we have that built in here as well. i want to underscore, these are the reasons why two of the...
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have you been in trouble with the law? african-americans have become balances that but they had to go through rigorous testing, two different sets of tests. and after all that the school board came back and said, it's the most amazing thing, none of the students were good enough to be in a white school. they published their names in the newspaper with a list of what each of these kids wasn't good enough. here's a kid that failed scholastically. here's a kid not a bad background. is a kid, they took it to the court and the court said, you know what? we are not feeling it. come back with us again because you will integrate. finally, they take 17 students that they would allow into the school. and it's not clear why they picked those 17 students. i know some of the students, and they said, they thought maybe they were lighter skinned. then he looked around and said no, looking at us, that's not it. maybe we had last names that sounded something -- no one could quite figure it out why the 70 were picked. the same day that they
have you been in trouble with the law? african-americans have become balances that but they had to go through rigorous testing, two different sets of tests. and after all that the school board came back and said, it's the most amazing thing, none of the students were good enough to be in a white school. they published their names in the newspaper with a list of what each of these kids wasn't good enough. here's a kid that failed scholastically. here's a kid not a bad background. is a kid, they...
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court used to make the law, to shape the law, to define the law of capital punishment. when we agreed on that we said that's it. then the publisher changed it to legal crimes, lethal crimes and landmark cases. but the fact that we agreed on -- >> guest: which we have to agree was an improvement. [laughter] >> guest: i don't know. i think it works. >> guest: coming up with that team, the unifying theme was the hardest part. we made several false starts over the years. >> guest: the concern was there was another book called murder in the supreme court. that is a novel about a murder at the supreme court. we were concerned about that. you know, we weren't going to let that get in our way. this is "murder at the supreme court" at is how the supreme court used murder in the punishment that is appropriate for it. but i think it is a good time and it does capture what the book is all about. these are all legal crimes and what the court said about him, or just landmark decisions. >> host: i think what's neat about the time and the way the book is done, the barcode and where the
court used to make the law, to shape the law, to define the law of capital punishment. when we agreed on that we said that's it. then the publisher changed it to legal crimes, lethal crimes and landmark cases. but the fact that we agreed on -- >> guest: which we have to agree was an improvement. [laughter] >> guest: i don't know. i think it works. >> guest: coming up with that team, the unifying theme was the hardest part. we made several false starts over the years. >>...
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are presumptively lawful. so there is no doubt, at least in scalia's mind that a background check is consistent with the second amendment. the gun lobby also argues that background checks are ineffective. you've heard this argument, haven't you? pass all the laws you want and all the law-abiding citizens will live by them but the criminals won't. here's what they fail to note. nearly two million prohibited purchasers have been blocked from buying a gun since background checks went into effect. they were so stupid, so careless, they tried to buy a gun anyway. they were stopped. the argument, of course, then goes why are there so many gun crimes committed? well, because they get guns through other means which is pore of the bill. straw purchasers, for example, through the ads in the newspaper that i mentioned earlier. and the argument that unless a law is airtight and will stop all gun violence, we shouldn't pass it; are we going to use that standard for speeding on highways? are we going to use that standard fo
are presumptively lawful. so there is no doubt, at least in scalia's mind that a background check is consistent with the second amendment. the gun lobby also argues that background checks are ineffective. you've heard this argument, haven't you? pass all the laws you want and all the law-abiding citizens will live by them but the criminals won't. here's what they fail to note. nearly two million prohibited purchasers have been blocked from buying a gun since background checks went into effect....
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we have a responsibility to deal with that law, and we are. >> the people who made the law, we have the ability to choose to replace it. it's not that i don't want to put us on a sound financial footing, but i don't want to score the military in the process, so between now and this year, we have to talk about that in detail, how we end the war in afghanistan, and general dempsey, what would winning look like in afghanistan? do you agree with the definition of winning? >> yeah, i do, senator. by the way, thank you personally for your help on the detention issue. >> you found a good resolution to the hard problems. what would losing look like,n your opinion, in afghanistan? >> i think the recurrence and inability to control urban areas, and i think as well, and there's a long term relationship with them. >> is mori real affected by this uncertainty created in the budget process? >> absolutely. >> we are hurting morale but not having a better budget solution. i take that to heart. secretary hagel, what do you want to see the budget do this year? if you have a two or three item wish lis
we have a responsibility to deal with that law, and we are. >> the people who made the law, we have the ability to choose to replace it. it's not that i don't want to put us on a sound financial footing, but i don't want to score the military in the process, so between now and this year, we have to talk about that in detail, how we end the war in afghanistan, and general dempsey, what would winning look like in afghanistan? do you agree with the definition of winning? >> yeah, i do,...
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law-ag citizens. we have seen the newtown parents here in washington bravely telling their stories. they deserve better than this body turning their backs on them. the families of aurora deserve better than this body turning their backs on them. the families of more than 30 people who die every single day at the hands of gun violence deserve more from this body. my friends, it is simply time to act. today is the day for this body to show the american people that their voices matter. that when 90% of americans demand us to expand background checks, that we can deliver. we should be able to agree today that we no longer need military-style weapons and ammunition clips on our streets. and we should be able to agree today that it's time to crack down on the illegal handguns being trafficked in our streets into the hands of criminals. four years ago, i met the parents of naisha pryor yard. naisha was a beautiful 17-year-old honor student killed in the prime of her life by an illegal handgun when she was ju
law-ag citizens. we have seen the newtown parents here in washington bravely telling their stories. they deserve better than this body turning their backs on them. the families of aurora deserve better than this body turning their backs on them. the families of more than 30 people who die every single day at the hands of gun violence deserve more from this body. my friends, it is simply time to act. today is the day for this body to show the american people that their voices matter. that when...
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so they're going want a public defender that goes gets the law. that does the bidding. that's a real challenge. and in nawrn for a long time the system was also that one public derchesd assigned to one courtroom and the same judge. they were always arguing before the same judge. ..
so they're going want a public defender that goes gets the law. that does the bidding. that's a real challenge. and in nawrn for a long time the system was also that one public derchesd assigned to one courtroom and the same judge. they were always arguing before the same judge. ..
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the racial texture of slavery, the laws of economic 100 percent economic. actually came in quite a bit different. that did not really address your question. >> if i could interrupt you. time for one more question. [inaudible question] >> each of you take that one quick. >> i am currently working on a book. so this discussion of not using hindsight to think about things, one thing i have been interested in a long time is all of the attempts that the united states made to acquire territory failed . moments when americans decided not to acquire territory immobile what i want to do is write a book the looks of manifest destiny or american territorial expansion from the perspective of what did not happen to try to destabilize his narrative whereby we think of what u.s. boundaries are. is natural a lot of people thought the united states is going to take all essential america and canada and the mexican war made them think that. that to the workout. this is what my next project does. >> i am writing biography. california's favorite sun. >> go back to where i start
the racial texture of slavery, the laws of economic 100 percent economic. actually came in quite a bit different. that did not really address your question. >> if i could interrupt you. time for one more question. [inaudible question] >> each of you take that one quick. >> i am currently working on a book. so this discussion of not using hindsight to think about things, one thing i have been interested in a long time is all of the attempts that the united states made to...
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and by law they have to keep the record. and by law, they cannot use that as a registration. cannot by law, even in our bill we even make sure that you cannot use any type of information for registration. and we said if you try to do it, if your government agency or a person that works for a government and you use any of these records, it's a felony with 15 years of imprisonment. that's how much this bill protects my rights as a law-abiding gun owner. we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every gun sold at a gun show. we've talked about this before. the law today says that if i go to a gun show and i go and there's a dealer, a licensed dealer, that dealer still has to do a background check on me and keep the proper report. but i could go to a table over or go outside in the parking lot, and nothing is required of me. nothing. and all we're doing is taking current law and making it uniform so everybody plays by the same set of rules. we think it helps tremendously. we talk about the criminals and people who have been adjudicated t
and by law they have to keep the record. and by law, they cannot use that as a registration. cannot by law, even in our bill we even make sure that you cannot use any type of information for registration. and we said if you try to do it, if your government agency or a person that works for a government and you use any of these records, it's a felony with 15 years of imprisonment. that's how much this bill protects my rights as a law-abiding gun owner. we think it's reasonable to provide...
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we comply with laws when they're written and comply with the law. that's not the issue. the issue is that the law . >> my time is -- to be clear of the bill came out of the congress and it was a law you intend to follow it to the letter. >> we always endeavor to follow the law. all right. i want to to be sure. you will follow it. endeavoring and following slightly different. i can't comment on a law i haven't read. we need to discuss them. could you set an order -- on the $3 million cap roughly $20 5,000 a year. new policy, can you tell me. the wall "the wall street journal" estimates that 6% of the population will be impacted by the new cap. i remember your testimony saying a small amount of people. heard a lot of complaining about the 1%. are with targeting the of%? our position is clear. we want all american to save for their retirement. open we want to encourage people who don't save to save. we want to make it easier not harder. in a world of tough choices when most have less than $100,000. saying the tax benefit ends at $3 million is a reasonable treadoff to me. >>
we comply with laws when they're written and comply with the law. that's not the issue. the issue is that the law . >> my time is -- to be clear of the bill came out of the congress and it was a law you intend to follow it to the letter. >> we always endeavor to follow the law. all right. i want to to be sure. you will follow it. endeavoring and following slightly different. i can't comment on a law i haven't read. we need to discuss them. could you set an order -- on the $3 million...
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from harvard law school. after law school she was law clerk to judge donald porter of the district court of south dakota, and judge david hanson of iowa on the eighth circuit. she could easily have commanded a big salary with a top law firm but instead for over 0 years has opted for public service and long hours as a public defender. we are fortunate she seeks to continue her public service to iowa and our nation by serving as a federal judge. madam president, let me conclude with two additional notes about ms. kelly's nomination. first if confirmed she will only be the second female judge in the history of the eighth circuit court of appeals, a court established in 1891. while 56 men have sat on that court to date there has only been one woman, diana murphy from minnesota. secondly, president obama has nominated approximately 100 former prosecutors to the federal bench including one that i recommended, former u.s. attorney stephanie rose, to the southern district of iowa. among recent presidents that is the
from harvard law school. after law school she was law clerk to judge donald porter of the district court of south dakota, and judge david hanson of iowa on the eighth circuit. she could easily have commanded a big salary with a top law firm but instead for over 0 years has opted for public service and long hours as a public defender. we are fortunate she seeks to continue her public service to iowa and our nation by serving as a federal judge. madam president, let me conclude with two...
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it's the president's law firm. they have a responsibility to push back against unreasonable institution pressures. they are not anywhere in the government. the task force recommends that it should periodically review the confidential opinions if they may be declassified and released. if the opinions might somehow be disclosed would be more mindful of their responsibilities to act in in partial matter or less likely to engage an advocacy. we are available to answer those questions. on the issue of the obama administration during the 2008 campaign, president obama criticized the bush administration treatment of detainees and the candidate obama promised to close guantanamo and reject torture without exception or equivocation pitting it he also criticized previous administrations for the executives included repeated invocation of the state secret privilege to get civil lawsuits thrown out of court and promised to lead a new era of openness. the administration has fulfilled some of the promises and conspicuously failed
it's the president's law firm. they have a responsibility to push back against unreasonable institution pressures. they are not anywhere in the government. the task force recommends that it should periodically review the confidential opinions if they may be declassified and released. if the opinions might somehow be disclosed would be more mindful of their responsibilities to act in in partial matter or less likely to engage an advocacy. we are available to answer those questions. on the issue...
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and let's be clear that law enforcement officials take an oath of office to uphold federal law, and they're going to continue to pursue drug traffickers and drug dealers and transnational criminal organizations, all of which weaken our communities, and they pose very serious threats to our nation. and too often discussions about marijuana, though, dwell on this issue of legalization and whether making the drug more widely and easily available -- which it would be when it becomes legal in those areas as it is now -- would make the problem go away with it was all legal. including enforcement of existing laws is a matter for the department of justice. the department of justice enforcement of the controlled substances act, the federal law remained up changed. we shouldn't lose site of the -- lose sight of the fundamental fact though. the most responsible public policy is one that restricts its availability and discourages its use. and i recognize that the marriage debate has taken up quite a bit of media space, but i want to turn to something that affects most americans, and the subject that th
and let's be clear that law enforcement officials take an oath of office to uphold federal law, and they're going to continue to pursue drug traffickers and drug dealers and transnational criminal organizations, all of which weaken our communities, and they pose very serious threats to our nation. and too often discussions about marijuana, though, dwell on this issue of legalization and whether making the drug more widely and easily available -- which it would be when it becomes legal in those...
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president because it is a terrible law enforcement democrats know how much after law this mess is, too. some of them are even finally willing to admit it. last week the senate finance committee held a hearing on president obama's budget for the next fiscal year. secretary sebelius testified at that hearing. i want to read an article from the newspaper "the hill" about what happened. the article is entitled "baucus warns of huge train wreck in enacting obamacare provisions." huge train wreck. the article identifies senator baucus as -- quote -- "a key architect of the president's health care law and quotes him telling secretary sebelius 'i see a huge train wreck coming down.' he added 'you and i have discussed this many times, and i don't see any results yet.' . it quotes the senator saying -- quote -- "small businesses have no idea what to do, what to expect." i agree with senator baucus. businesses have no idea what to expect, and this health care law is a train wreck. so what does this mean in the real world? well, it's causing businesses to avoid hiring or to cut back hours. there a
president because it is a terrible law enforcement democrats know how much after law this mess is, too. some of them are even finally willing to admit it. last week the senate finance committee held a hearing on president obama's budget for the next fiscal year. secretary sebelius testified at that hearing. i want to read an article from the newspaper "the hill" about what happened. the article is entitled "baucus warns of huge train wreck in enacting obamacare provisions."...
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attorney general, you are the top law-enforcement official. during this era to look forward to hearing how budget request make our communities safer, take firearms out of the hands of those who seek to do us harm and provide first responders and law enforcement officers resources to protect our communities, investigate crimes and prosecute offenders. at night to thank chairman wolf and ranking member =tranfour for this hearing and for you, attorney general holder, for this today. >> percentage of the authority of title ii the united states code and household oven, today's witness will be sworn. please rise and raise your right hand. youemnl ol swer or affirm the testimony you're about to give the visitors, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? at the record reflect the witness answered the affirmative. your false statement will appear in the record as you see appropriate. >> at afternoon, chairman rogers, chairman wolf, ranking them for fattah. i appreciate the opportunity of the 2014 budget for the department of justice and the recent ac
attorney general, you are the top law-enforcement official. during this era to look forward to hearing how budget request make our communities safer, take firearms out of the hands of those who seek to do us harm and provide first responders and law enforcement officers resources to protect our communities, investigate crimes and prosecute offenders. at night to thank chairman wolf and ranking member =tranfour for this hearing and for you, attorney general holder, for this today. >>...
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law enforcement. the fbi worked with the canadian law enforcement. i refer you to them for more details on this, but this successful cooperation illustrated the close relationship we have with canada on so many important issues like foreign affairs, trade, emergency preparedness, and security. it was a welcomed announcement by the canadian government. yes? >> the president back in syria, chemical weapons, a red line that would trigger unspecified u.s. action. was the administration made aware in advance they would lay down accusations today and go public with them? if it's true, what were the consequences be, and could that -- >> i'm not going to speculate about consequences. what i'll say is that the president made clear that the use of or transmission of chemical weapons including transition to nonstate actors would be unacceptable in the president's view, unacceptable to the united states. we have made clear we made clear about reports of chemical weapons made by, in syria, it's also important to note that the use of chemical weapons is difficult
law enforcement. the fbi worked with the canadian law enforcement. i refer you to them for more details on this, but this successful cooperation illustrated the close relationship we have with canada on so many important issues like foreign affairs, trade, emergency preparedness, and security. it was a welcomed announcement by the canadian government. yes? >> the president back in syria, chemical weapons, a red line that would trigger unspecified u.s. action. was the administration made...
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his background is in the law and, actually, he began his background in law at his family's kitchen table. his father, rex lee, was a law school dean, assistant u.s. attorney general and solicitor general for ronald reagan. senator lee is a graduate of brigham young university and byu law school, was a law clerk for judge dean benson of the u.s. district court of the district of utah and then judge sam alito's clerk when he was at the u.s. court of appeals for the 3rd circuit. he served as an attorney -- assistant u.s. attorney general in utah and general counsel to the governor of utah before turning to private practice. and then in 2010, that important election year, he decided to run united yorking out an -- knocking out an incumbent u.s. senator and a party-endorsed candidate to become the primary candidate and win the general election. senator lee is now on the judiciary committee, serves as ranking member of the antitrust competition policy and consumer rights subcommittee. he also sevens on the armed service -- serves on the armed services committee and the joint economic committee
his background is in the law and, actually, he began his background in law at his family's kitchen table. his father, rex lee, was a law school dean, assistant u.s. attorney general and solicitor general for ronald reagan. senator lee is a graduate of brigham young university and byu law school, was a law clerk for judge dean benson of the u.s. district court of the district of utah and then judge sam alito's clerk when he was at the u.s. court of appeals for the 3rd circuit. he served as an...
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law. that's what it comes down to. and why is it important? it's important because businesses in our states, small businesses are competing with internet retailers who get an automatic discount when they don't collect sales tax. and i listened to the explanation given by one of my friends from oregon here, and he said that i'm defying the natural forces of the free-market system where good-quality goods are chosen over lower-quality goods. well, i can't argue about the pine trees that are grown in oregon, because i don't know if they are better than the pine trees grown in washington or some other place. but we are dealing in many instances here with identical goods. the nike running shoes that you can buy at chris cooze sporting goods in normal, illinois, or buy over the internet with no sales tax. it isn't a question of good quality versus bad quality. it is a question of sales tax or no sales tax. what the oregonians suggested to us is what they consider to be a perfect solution. remove
law. that's what it comes down to. and why is it important? it's important because businesses in our states, small businesses are competing with internet retailers who get an automatic discount when they don't collect sales tax. and i listened to the explanation given by one of my friends from oregon here, and he said that i'm defying the natural forces of the free-market system where good-quality goods are chosen over lower-quality goods. well, i can't argue about the pine trees that are grown...
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this includes the lives of lawful gun owners, the lived of law enforcement and the lives of ctheic violence. state or local governments that release private gun owner information will be penalized 5% of their federal program funding. this includes the release of private information on individuals 0 who have licenses to purchase or who possess or who carry firearms. the funding that's withheld will then be redistributed to the states that are in compliance. this amendment will ensure that gun owners across the nation do not have their private gun owner information publicly released. thank you, mr. president. and i urge all my colleagues to support the amendment. mr. leahy: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from vermont. mr. leahy: this is a case of washington being big brother and telling each one of the states whether it's wyoming, vermont, or connecticut here's what you have to do. we have no idea how it's going to affect them, we do know it's going to cut off a lot of money to law enforcement because it's telling states even though states, legislators have gone out for the
this includes the lives of lawful gun owners, the lived of law enforcement and the lives of ctheic violence. state or local governments that release private gun owner information will be penalized 5% of their federal program funding. this includes the release of private information on individuals 0 who have licenses to purchase or who possess or who carry firearms. the funding that's withheld will then be redistributed to the states that are in compliance. this amendment will ensure that gun...
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and so another thing that i would do, more of this point involves local laws and federal law, but if i were in charge of that school district i would be lobbying to allow teachers to have concealed carry, to have a gun locked up in a desk drawer, you know, for the principal demands. ultimately, that's the only thing i know of that might've saved any lives in the situation. we have gun registration up there. the cities that we are the most significant gun control seem to have the most significant crime in our country. >> what's wrong with the concept of universal registration? >> i think one doesn't go to the problem if the problem is mass shootings by young men at gun free zones, registration doesn't deter these young men. registration works for law-abiding citizens. nearly if you look at crime, nearly 90% of crime is committed by guns that are bought illegally already. if you look at gun shows, i think in 2004 they did a survey of inmates and it was like one, 1.7% are committed with guns from gun shows. i think, let's, if the background checks were, why do we enforce what we've got.
and so another thing that i would do, more of this point involves local laws and federal law, but if i were in charge of that school district i would be lobbying to allow teachers to have concealed carry, to have a gun locked up in a desk drawer, you know, for the principal demands. ultimately, that's the only thing i know of that might've saved any lives in the situation. we have gun registration up there. the cities that we are the most significant gun control seem to have the most...
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we urge you to cooperate with law enforcement authorities. the resources, the fbi and jttf allow swift action which will hopefully yield quick results that does not diminish the diligence and perseverance combing through the high volume of evidence and leads we're processing right now. we're just beginning the process on that path. thank you very much. >> i'm gene marquez, acting special agent in charge, atf, boston field division. at this time atf as partial nrt, national response team activation. we're bringing our explosive specialists here to the scene and we'll work jointly with the fbi and its partners on the jtt. if we have certified explosive specialists. we have explosives enforcement officers. we have special agent bomb tex and we have k-9s that are trained to detect any explosive devices or any residue. at this time we have approximately 30 forensic specialists en route or on the scene and to dispel any rumors there were rumors floating around there were seven devices at one point. that is not true. i think that happened as a resul
we urge you to cooperate with law enforcement authorities. the resources, the fbi and jttf allow swift action which will hopefully yield quick results that does not diminish the diligence and perseverance combing through the high volume of evidence and leads we're processing right now. we're just beginning the process on that path. thank you very much. >> i'm gene marquez, acting special agent in charge, atf, boston field division. at this time atf as partial nrt, national response team...
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himself and navigated his yacht from polynesia to new zealand without using a compass but traditional law. the one passed from one generation to the next. courses in the discovery of the polynesian islands was a complex than social issues and due to the fact these people know the passage of the heavenly bodies and they also do. let me give you an example. this is straight up from the old tradition if you approach an island you will get the regular ocean swell then the waves off the cliff and these pilots are so into and that when they stop suspecting it they would stand up, lean over and since the direction that their testicles would swing the. [laughter] you laugh but they were so into with the ocean and their bodies they did it and david the was once told me but they said the land is over there and it was. they found it one day later. that is the intimate knowledge i am talking about the other thing that is startling is how little was very known but there is a huge literature of the lee did of the odyssey they don't describe them here is a cave and if you do this, it is all one to the o
himself and navigated his yacht from polynesia to new zealand without using a compass but traditional law. the one passed from one generation to the next. courses in the discovery of the polynesian islands was a complex than social issues and due to the fact these people know the passage of the heavenly bodies and they also do. let me give you an example. this is straight up from the old tradition if you approach an island you will get the regular ocean swell then the waves off the cliff and...